What Trump and Obama Really Said to Each Other at Jimmy Carter’s Funeral: A Lip Reader Reveals All
During the funeral for the late President Jimmy Carter, an unexpected moment between President-elect Donald Trump and former President Barack Obama caught the attention of many. The two shared a seemingly light-hearted conversation, even sharing a laugh, in a setting that many didn’t expect to see them so relaxed.
Thanks to a lip reader, Jeremy Freeman, who spoke exclusively to The Daily Mail, we now have a glimpse into their private exchange.
According to Freeman’s observations, Trump leaned in and told Obama that it was important they meet “today” in a “quiet place” to address something significant. Obama responded with a casual, “Yeah, yeah, I’m fine, yeah, fine, fine, fine. Listen to me. It’s a chore, a chore,” Freeman reported.
Trump appeared amused, replying, “Yeah, right. I can’t think of anything that’s a chore.”
The conversation continued, with Obama reportedly saying, “Maybe, even the… people, even if they aren’t happy, you will come across it, it’s a chore. Now, they can block the entrance, all right.”
Trump, then leaning in closer to Obama, allegedly whispered, “I’ve pulled out of that. It’s the conditions. Can you imagine that?”
What exactly they were discussing remains unclear, but the exchange adds a layer of intrigue to what was already a historic and emotional day.
As the conversation continued, Obama laughed, and Trump, not missing a beat, responded with, “And after, I will…”
Moments later, according to the lip reader, Obama asked, “Are you going back to the foy after?”
Trump replied, “Call me at the foy after, yep.” While the word “foy” was unclear to the lip reader, it’s believed they might have been talking about arranging a later meeting in the “foyer.”
Obama then offered a suggestion, saying, “Can you just… it should be good.”
Trump, looking more serious, responded, “I can’t talk, we have to find a quiet place, sometimes this is a matter of importance, and we need to do this outside so that we can deal with it, certainly, today.”
The exchange hints at a deeper conversation happening behind the scenes, raising questions about what the two leaders were planning to discuss in private.
Obama nodded in agreement, and the two men exchanged a simple “right” and “OK,” signaling the end of their conversation.
After the event, Fox News’ Peter Doocy pressed Trump on what he and the 44th president had been talking about. Trump responded with a grin, admitting, “It did look very friendly,” though he kept the details vague.
Trump continued, acknowledging that he had seen the footage of their exchange on Doocy’s network. “Boy, they look like two people that like each other,” Trump remarked. “And we probably do. We have a little different philosophies, right? But I think we probably do.”
This lighthearted exchange sparked curiosity about the true nature of their relationship, offering a rare, more personal glimpse into the dynamic between the two political figures.
Former President Jimmy Carter, who passed away last month at the age of 100, was honored with a state funeral at the National Cathedral last Thursday. The ceremony was a solemn occasion, with all living presidents in attendance, as the nation mourned the loss of one of its longest-serving leaders.
However, amid the somber atmosphere, there were noticeable moments of tension. When Vice President Kamala Harris took her seat in front of Obama and Trump, the two men paused their conversation for a brief moment but quickly resumed their exchange. At one point, Harris turned toward them, only to glance back with what appeared to be frustration on her face. Her husband, Doug Emhoff, didn’t turn around, further adding to the awkwardness.
Meanwhile, as Obama leaned in to speak with Trump, the former presidents shared a few laughs. Sitting beside them, Melania Trump and Laura Bush—both former First Ladies—sat quietly, gazing ahead, while the Clintons conversed among themselves. George W. Bush appeared to be waving to others in the crowd.
The atmosphere at the event wasn’t without its own controversies. Karen Pence, wife of former Vice President Mike Pence, stirred some attention when she reportedly declined to shake hands with Melania Trump. The awkward moment occurred as the Trumps arrived, marking their first major public appearance since Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 presidential election.
Melania, ever the picture of grace, appeared unfazed, offering a polite smile in response to the apparent snub. But the incident didn’t go unnoticed on social media, where reactions ranged from criticism to disbelief. One user tweeted, “People with no class, make classless moves,” while others expressed similar sentiments, with one commenting, “I would expect nothing less from a Pence,” and another calling Karen Pence “the worst.”
Other social media users took to describing the interaction as part of a larger “mean girls ex-First Lady club,” with some claiming that the snub was a sign of jealousy and pettiness among certain political figures.
